***** FB Dialog: "We totally waste the better part of our lives on sex." (details)

PPT:  I have wasted the better part of my life waiting for sex.

R:  James, surely you did not expect this one to fly. Sex is far from a waste of time. It restores us.

K:  I have wasted time on sex... But never wasted one second on making love with someone I truly love! Huge difference ! Sex is a meaningless act. Making love a gift of ones body and soul to another whom is giving the same in return .

R:  K, thank you. You put into words what my mind was thinking but never articulated.




 
PPT:  Yes. I don't have sex. I only make love.

WC:  The learning part of life.

JJ:  It's Obama's fault.🗽

JM:  Love is good, and so is making love; pointless sex is a distracting, and many waste years of energy chasing it.. I think that's the point here. Not sure though

Loving:  Wow, I've just lost (FB ate it) a long and detailed reply to your comments, above. Oh well. I'll leave you with your shallow, glib, dismissal of what I tried to share. If in the future, you find yourself wanting to explore what I tried to share, spend some time at my blog, and let me know how we can take it from there. Very disappointing.

R:   I guess you should have elaborated on your original statement? Always like exploring your thoughts and way of looking at life. Sorry if my response was shallow, glib or dismissive, it wasn't meant to be.

Loving:  Of course the following proves nothing (nothing is absolute proof of anything) but the/a premier scholar of the man, the human, Jesus, is Dominik Crossen, who I've been studying for much of the last 9 months. I am interested in Crossan because thru him I believe I am able to see the pre-eminent scholarship on the man Jesus, of the last 200 years. I am drawn to understand that man Jesus, and not what was made up in his name quickly afterward, because I think if there was anyone in history that might have been able to lead us away from ecocide, fascism... in 2014, only Jesus was that person, in my experience, and probably even He could not have.... Crossan has done nothing but study, publish on, the scrolls, history, archeology, writings, scholarship, anthropology... that pertains, for about 30 years, his entire adulthood. The following is pretty central and fundamental to what he, and I, understand was utterly central to Jesus vision, understanding, diagnosis, prescription..... I'm not sure it can speak to you all by itself, but it is what I could quickly get for you, from his book to scholars, "The Historical Jesus," 1994 or so: "Jesus’ Kingdom of nobodies and undesirables in the here and now of this world was surely a radically egalitarian one, and, as such, it rendered sexual and social, politi­cal and religious distinctions completely irrelevant and anachronistic." Celibacy, of body and mind, EXACTLY like that of a very young child, except for the moments of procreation, was a given. PRETTY HORRIBLE IDEA, NO? WHAT A HORRIBLE WORLD THAT WOULD BE - EMPTY, BORING, PLEASURELESS, MEANINGLESS!!!! WHAT A HORRIBLE LIFE THAT WOULD BE!!! Remember how horrible your life was before your sexual urges and abilities developed?!?!?!? Right??? Think about how horrible life will be for you, how empty, dead... when your urges subside in old age?!?!?!?! HORRIBLE!!!!! I let society and my hormones strip away the understanding Jesus had, that I naturally had. No more. I've returned to my sanity, to Loving (which has NOTHING to do with sex, but maybe, .00000001% of the time it can be something that Loving does). The Possible Heaven, on earth, is a Loving (Serving the Neediest from the Soul in Solidarity) centric, Loving filled, Lusting/Sex devoid world (the opposite of our world today). Does anyone really think we can eliminate wars, greed, inequality, poverty, suffering, lust for stuff... without relegating sex of any sort to the insignificant, irrelevant, uninteresting... margins? (Hint, it can't be done). Well, enough for now. (If the above is significantly in error, than I know NOTHING that is any value, for anyone, regarding ANYTHING, which of course, may be the case, and may be fine, I suppose).

WC:  Like Gandhi says about his wife: you stop lusting after them and learn to develop a partnership and equal relationship. Sex is meant for procreation.

Loving:   Wayne, all my days I've had the most total admiration for Gandhi; and I got him, I get him. As a young man, and not so young, I knew of his views and practices you've just cited. I couldn't believe he meant it. I couldn't believe he was correct. I didn't understand Loving - I thought that and sex (making Love) were closely intertwined, and I could hardly have been more incorrect. The point to me, to Gandhi, to Jesus ... is not that sex, or truly making love, are bad. It is that they are profoundly inferior to Loving (Serving the neediest from the Soul in Solidarity). Anyone, everyone, is welcome to disagree with Gandhi, me, Jesus (maybe Gloria Steinem later in life now, LOL).... I DID disagree for most of my years. What a horrible, tragic, waste, including near all of the Making Love. What a waste. (Isn't it interesting? If my post above, and comments herein, had somehow been near the reverse - that Making Love, sex, is the epitome of human experience, and how fortunate those for whom it is central in their lives - virtually no one would be threatened, upset... by that. But to suggest the reverse? HORRIFYING!!!!!) What Hell to be a Gandhi, Jesus, Teresa of Calcutta, Malala.... SOOOO MUCH they 'Sacrificed,' 'Gave up....'

Loving:  Sincere, warm ((((HUGS)))) to all.

R:  Not so HORRIFYING when explained as you have done very well. I get it and believe it but not so sure I would have 40 years ago ...

Loving:  R, you are amazing. You and others were disturbed by my post, and I was disturbed by many of the comments. And how else could it be? This is just the very epicenter, the very fault line, that has prevented, and probably always will prevent heaven on earth. Please get ready for this: equally central is its near cousin, nuclear family. It is inconceivable to us in 2014 Western culture, that nuclear family is not the supremely natural noble good. But objectively, the most peaceful, most joyful, most heaven like cultures to have ever been, are the indigenous tribes throughout history. And within these tribes the notion of nuclear family is literally incomprehensible, as is anything resembling our sex centric culture. Hugs.            

R:  I wasn't disturbed so much as confused as to where you were coming from. Should have known there was reasoning behind your statement .... could you also, when you find time, or have the inclination, please explain what you mean by nuclear family? I understand about the indigenous tribes and agree with your thoughts on them and their sereneness.

Loving:  Nuclear family, the notion that our Supreme responsibility is mom and dad to biological offspring. Jesus was nothing, if not an existential scream against such ideas. Love is not love, family is not family, if it has any boundaries whatsoever. Are there practical issues, issues of proximity? Of course! For most of my years I totally revered Dr King. But I couldn't understand how he continued his work that so endangered the very lives of his biological family! And then it hit me. He realized that every child was his child. Everyone was his family. And that's what Jesus died to teach us, to give us. Besides sex, there is nothing more than nuclear family that we use to justify our barbaric cruelty, neglect, abuse of those outside its borders.

R:  Thank you ... Your reference to Dr. King putting his family in danger made it very clear as to what you mean, what you are saying. I am afraid there are not enough of us (like you and your ilk) willing or I should say, able to bring ourselves to that level. While I know this is the only way to world peace and true Love of all mankind, I fear it is only a dream that wise men envision. Yes, Jesus died to teach us that and you can see how well we learned that lesson. Thank you, James, you give me so much to think about ....   

pic. Jesus was a homeless advocate, for the homeless. That's what he was, pretty much. We 'followers' of Jesus, are what now?

Ohio couple married 70 years die 15 hours apart It was a love story that spanned decades. USA TODAY

Ohio couple married 70 years die 15 hours apart

It was a love story that spanned decades.

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***** Moyers, Krugman, Piketty. 4th Reich. Krugman: Worried About Oligarchy? You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet

Published on Friday, April 18, 2014 by Common Dreams

Krugman: Worried About Oligarchy? You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet

'Even those of you who talk about the 1%, you don't really get what's going on. You're living in the past.'

- Jon Queally, staff writer 

 

http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2014/04/18-8 

Comment from a FB acquaintence: "James Mcginley thanks for everything you do. I truley

BF:  I'm just trying to do my best for my son and to not let the fear consume me. James Mcginley thanks for everything you do. I truley admire you, you are a real human angel!

Loving:  BF, what a kind note. I am honored by your sharing. We are to be Angels to one another, no? Everything less is failure, and oh, do I personally know failure; my own for most of my years. I'm improving. We need to bear the unspeakable fear and pain FOR our children, no? Just to the point it almost crushes us, because therein we find the greatest motivation and vision. But yes, do deal with all the unfolding horror, AND to have a child, the Ultimate difficulty. The only guidance I wish I'd had at the time, was, the top 10 priorities are: Find / create, a healthy Community; Find / Create a healthy community; Find.... And there are close to none, which is the source of all our problems. Thanks so much for sharing. I'll continue to do my best for us, for the joy of it.

You can Worship Christian myth, or the Man Jesus, but YOU CAN'T DO BOTH. YOU CANNOT DO BOTH. I Adore Jesus above all others. The Crucifixion story(s) is deeply moving to me, always was. It is a complete fiction - virtually no one at the time, or since, knows anything about those three days except for one thing, and one thing only - he WAS crucified, and it is virtually certain he was NOT burried, etc, etc, etc.

You can Worship Christian myth, or the Man Jesus, but YOU CAN'T DO BOTH. YOU CANNOT DO BOTH. I Adore Jesus above all others. The Crucifixion story(s) is deeply moving to me, always was. It is a complete fiction - virtually no one at the time, or since, knows anything about those three days except for one thing, and one thing only - he WAS crucified, and it is virtually certain he was NOT burried, etc, etc, etc.

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I’ll give you a hint. It is not the ‘Hand of God’ that is sucking the life out of everything, US, Creation.... Greed Over People

I have lost the will to live in this society. I will NEVER lose my will to Serve, from my Soul, in Solidarity, our Global Neediest.

I have lost the will to live in this society. I will NEVER lose my will to Serve, from my Soul, in Solidarity, our Global Neediest.

All that keeps me going, all that literally gets me out of bed each day, is the vision of maybe being of use to others in need. It is a joy. I'd be dead without it. Come to think of it, we ARE Dead, without it

All that keeps me going, all that literally gets me out of bed each day, is the vision of maybe being of use to others in need. It is a joy. I'd be dead without it.  Come to think of it, we ARE Dead, without it

In my Heart I've always known that the richest people I knew of were Jesus, MLK Jr, Gandhi, Teresa of Calcutta..... Sadly, it is only later in life that I've found the courage to say 'no' to society, and to pursue the Infinite Wealth of Joy, Meaning, Loving... that I always knew that they had. Better late than never. Better sooner than later.

In my Heart I've always known that the richest people I knew of were Jesus, MLK Jr, Gandhi, Teresa of Calcutta..... Sadly, it is only later in life that I've found the courage to say 'no' to society, and to pursue the Infinite Wealth of Joy, Meaning, Loving... that I always knew that they had. Better late than never. Better sooner than later.

Some people are so poor that all that they have is money. Some people are so rich that all that they have is Loving.

Some people are so poor that all that they have is money. Some people are so rich that all that they have is Loving.

I am totally about enlightened greed. I believed that heaven was possible on earth for each individual. I was entirely correct. It is found in each moment of forgetting self and racing to save others from hell on earth.

I am totally about enlightened greed. I believed that heaven was possible on earth for each individual. I was entirely correct. It is found in each moment of forgetting self and racing to save others from hell on earth.

There was no defeat of the Nazis possible without a massive army of world citizens totally committed to do so. There is no defeat of global warming and massive economic inequality without the same.

There was no defeat of the Nazis possible without a massive army of world citizens totally committed to do so. There is no defeat of global warming and massive economic inequality without the same.

It is not the profound ignorance Republicans that makes them so deadly. It is their fierce commitment to remain ignorant that does.

It is not the profound ignorance Republicans that makes them so deadly. It is their fierce commitment to remain ignorant that does.

Jesus: Will you ever love me enough to honor what I said and taught: Love God; Love your Neighbor, Enemy, Foreigner; Create Heaven ON EARTH... and Stop Disgracing what I taught in favor of the stuff made up after my death: Virgin birth, Resurrection from the Dead, ONLY Son of God, Physical Miracles, Heaven in the Sky...? Will you, ever??? [THAT, and only that, would be the Miracle I died for.]

"Do not say, 'I am using what belongs to me.' You are using what belongs to others. All the wealth of the world belongs to you and to the others in common, as the sun, air, earth, and all the rest." St. John Chrysostom

'Loving, accept what housing is available to you..., PLEASE' (Advice from some Dear friends)

 To some very Loving friends that have expressed some concerns with yesterday's
posts (here, and here):

*  Who knows what Jesus meant (if He said it), when He said, "Render unto
Caesar what is Caesar's, and render unto God what is God's."  But to me
it is clear, in my Heart, it has become clear.  LOL.  EVERYTHING is the
Creator's!  NOTHING IS Caesar's, OURS, except to use for Her, Creator's, Work.

*  On top of that, I'm not entitled to that Social Security, it is 'mine' purely because
of an accident of birth - I was born white, male... to
massively endowed parents, in a massively
wealthy suburb... and not in Newark, NJ, the blighted ghetto's of any US city,
not Bangladesh, India, Nigeria... not urban Texas....

*  We 'Good' people have tried forever to 'take care of ourselves' so we can take
care of others, right?  It makes sense!  But it isn't working.  It isn't Solidarity.
It isn't Loving.  It isn't working.  I need to see what Solidarity can do, I think.

*  Housing IS a Right, IS Right... before the Creator,
but Amerika is NOT holding itself before God, OF the Creator, it is not.  It is
holding itself SQUARELY before Satan - Evil - Mammon.  Yes, I a Senior,
with Soc Sec... have access to that Right... and what of those here of color,
under 62, no Soc Sec?  A Father, a Brother... does not leave his Family
on a sinking ship, does he?  Solidarity shares in, does not leave.

*  Yes, maybe my Godly brother would provide me work so I I could avoid the 30% loss of
with Early Retirement on Soc Sec.  We need those funds now.  If I see a
viable strategy emerge for holding onto the Senate, and winning back some
of the House... WE NEED TO FUND THAT, NOW.  2014 may be the most
decisive election in world history.  That doctor in Africa needs funds, now.
A few other sheros and heroes of loving.. need funding now, for their work.
And, the Creator, Creation, Humanity... need me to remain full time in my
puny efforts fighting for what is Good.  Part time won't cut it.

And, there are some hugely worthy guys here in the shelter, victims of abuse,
theft...  I may be able to help a few, selectively, with funds. And, LOL, there
are a few churches that come here to the shelter and serve, and do AMAZING
work - those funds can help their work....  The needs have no time for me
to wait.

*  I need to remain safe, to serve?  1.  I'm making no difference, of any
consequence.  2.  Solidarity is what we've been missing, I think, for the
sake of reasonable 'safety.'  We can't spread Solidarity by abandoning it.