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***** The essence of unviolent action is patience, I have seen it said by sages recently. Part of me hates......

***** The essence of unviolent action is patience, I have seen it said by sages recently. Part of me hates that. Patience while children are being tortured and slaughtered? But it occurs to me there is a deep correctness understood properly. The patience of the farmer. The patience of the horticulturist. All creation including human beings and human groups are organic. Constructive change can only be within the organic framework. Yet it must be remembered that it is appropriate to cut out cancer and kill it.


***** I believe, I hope, that what Jesus was about, what Jesus was onto was infinitely more radical then what I see any group understanding or attempting ... Read on

I believe, I hope, that what Jesus was about, what Jesus was onto was infinitely more radical then what I see any group understanding or attempting. no discredit or disrespect to them.

For certain I believe that something infinitely more radical is needed, and is possible. I believed this since I was a child, tho only acted on it radically in the last 13 years or so.

Everyday I become more convinced that the kingdom of infinite joy regardless of external circumstance is right before everyone of us, because I live it, primarily, & I study it secondarily.

I also am becoming more convinced everyday that our addictive pursuit of pleasure will distract practically everyone of us, blind practically everyone of us, to that heaven until it is too late and all of creation is destroyed.

Believing that, maybe you can imagine how driven I am.

I see that the individual and collective solution is right in front of us. And I see defenses honed over thousands of years that dwarf any defenses that the Pentagon could dream of in power.

I detest what we've made of this world and will be happy to be gone from it. But I love all of creation and find infinite joy in trying to make things right.
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Politico: Civil Rights heroe John Lewis compares Snowden to Gandhi

From jail Chinese activist calls citizens to exercise rights


The Status Quo Changes only when it Changes

Well sort of, I can just barely see beyond the chicken and egg aspect of this.   But I can see a little bit beyond.

The status quo is what we are.  Whatever age we are, our life up until that point has been finding our place in the way things are.  We’re an information system; we’re a computer system, that’s what our nervous system is, and it has hardware, it has firmware, it has software, and whoever you are at this instant in time you are that many years and seconds of your life in programming a way to be.  Some of its now in hardware, that's pretty difficult to change.  Some of it is in software that's integrated with that hardware; that's difficult to change.  And a little piece of it is easy to change, not much of it is easy to change. 

So any and every status quo, any threat to the status quo, confronts you or anyone, with the prospect of throwing out your way of being, your way of existing, your way of living, your way of having pleasure, your way of maybe finding joy; probably not joy, so rare in our lives in this society.

I only glimpsed this morning this piece of it - that status quo is a paradigm, or it's like a paradigm - the capacity of our mind to make sense of reality a certain way.  Sometimes that’s shown to us with pictures – have you ever seen the one that is the old woman and the young woman; and when someone's first shown it, they’ll see either the old woman or the young woman; but over time, minutes, tens of minutes, particularly with coaching they can switch between views of the same picture without touching it, without moving it.  It’s a capacity of the mind, it snaps things into place.  It may not be the only snapping that's possible. 

Well a fundamental change in the status quo such as, ‘of course women should have the right to vote,’  has that snapping aspect to it.  It's not only what happens externally, it’s what happens within us.  And when it happens that quickly, it's not painful, but the prospect of it to the nervous system is excruciating, such that all but one 1 million run from it, and even kill to prevent it.

So the status quo doesn't change until the status quo changes.  30 kids are getting on a bus to their expected death, the freedom rides to Mississippi, their nervous systems already snapped into the new status quo. They saw and were living that they became of a different status quo.  ‘No, we don't sit in a separate waiting room.’  But their being it, their living it snapped ultimately millions of onlookers into the new status quo, and the status quo changed for millions almost instantly. Revolutionaries in Tahrir square provoked the same response within days.  The status quo for the whole world switched in days from, ‘yes, Mubarak heads the country,’ to ‘No, Mubarak can't head the country anymore.’  The status quo doesn't change until the status quo changes.

And when the status quo changes there is an, ‘ahhhhh, thank goodness,’ among millions who instants before that paradigm being shifted for them, would kill to prevent it from shifting. 

So there's something to those that cause that paradigm shift.  They go right to the brink of death, by giving every thing they have, not almost everything, everything they have for life in the status quo to be replaced, possibly including their own lives, that it causes enough onlookers to vicariously go to the same place, the same threshold of willingness to give.  And by standing at that threshold, without knowing it, there is the possibility of them getting instantaneously and painlessly and joyfully sucked through.  It's a hacking past the defenses of conservatism; it's so breathtaking, the courage of those 30 freedom riders, the courage of those 200 women in prison for women’s suffrage, that it literally sucks the healthier of those onlookers breathlessly to the brink, to the vortex, and sometimes they get sucked through, instantaneously.  ‘Oh, I see the young woman now; it isn't just the old woman, the mature woman in that picture.’

If the next 200 billion children will have a future other than hell on earth, a handful of people will go to that vortex themselves, and thereby create the conditions for that breathless, vicarious following, by much larger numbers, such that all could instantaneously, joyfully, gratefully and unwittingly get sucked through.  Or it won't happen.


Santorum, GOPigs, GOD IS TRUTH. STOP PISSING ON GOD: WashPo - Santorum's Lies, Kennedy's Truth

Joan Walsh over at Salon has a terrific deep dive on what Kennedy actually said, which is the opposite of Santorum’s characterization. “Of course, there’s no place in Kennedy’s speech where he said ‘people of faith are not allowed in the public square,’ or anything close to that, and Santorum’s saying it three times doesn’t make it true.” Courtesy of Walsh, here is what Kennedy said:
I believe in an America where the separation of church and state is absolute, where no Catholic prelate would tell the president (should he be Catholic) how to act, and no Protestant minister would tell his parishioners for whom to vote; where no church or church school is granted any public funds or political preference; and where no man is denied public office merely because his religion differs from the president who might appoint him or the people who might elect him.
I believe in an America that is officially neither Catholic, Protestant nor Jewish; where no public official either requests or accepts instructions on public policy from the Pope, the National Council of Churches or any other ecclesiastical source; where no religious body seeks to impose its will directly or indirectly upon the general populace or the public acts of its officials; and where religious liberty is so indivisible that an act against one church is treated as an act against all.
For while this year it may be a Catholic against whom the finger of suspicion is pointed, in other years it has been, and may someday be again, a Jew— or a Quaker or a Unitarian or a Baptist. It was Virginia’s harassment of Baptist preachers, for example, that helped lead to Jefferson’s statute of religious freedom. Today I may be the victim, but tomorrow it may be you — until the whole fabric of our harmonious society is ripped at a time of great national peril.


'Occupy DC: Guide to Accelerated High Stakes Social Change.' SL (txt. vids))

TEXT, VIDEOS AND SLIDES BELOW -Handbook of Fundamental Social Change
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Manual for achieving the high-stakes, high acceleration social change. 

This outline is deliberately preliminary to help out some potential collaborators of a prospective teach-in; and it is deliberately off the top of my mind, because having spent a lifetime practicing and studying this, if it's not top of mind then I'm reaching for things that I don't use. 

So this outline will cover these items:  some introductory notes; change becomes possible when you've found what's so valuable you'd die for it;  accurate diagnosis is 99% of the cure and necessitates a theory, an understanding of humanity; focus, clear objective, is a prerequisite of change, that is, any amount of force dissipated is ineffective; sufficient power, that is, creative tension, Dr. King's term, is a prerequisite change - millions of supporters unable to live without the change, unable to accept the  status quo, has always correlated with any major progress for human beings; paying the price is the currency of change, now, who pays it is a crucial issue;  becoming, being the cure is the entire hope; the only battlefield is the nervous system - external actions, best understood, always and only have the purpose of changing what's going on in enough people's nervous systems, their  understandings, their perceptions, their sense of risk, of what they value, and what might make them cave, acquiesce, agree, change Heart…;  and finally, the two types of warfare the two options - violent warfare which suicidally guarantees victory of the status quo,  it's always the means by which the status quo maintains itself, even if it's clever morphing from one group being in oppressive domination to another group being in oppressive domination; and Unviolent warfare, the only possibility of defeating massive physical force in time, if history is any indication for us, with true, fundamental, sustainable change.

So first, introductory notes.  This document and video log is nothing more or less than a documentation of what Start Loving has learned through lifelong study and practice of high-stakes change, highly accelerated change, specializing in turning around failing organizations in the computer industry for decades, and for the last 13 years, devoting it to high-stakes social change, which is an infinitely more difficult challenge. 

Most will quickly and aggressively dismiss what's presented here as unproven, unpopular, unknown.  I wish them well.  But I'd suggest that there are virtually none, including the masses that will dismiss it, that if they took the time to consider it in the depths of their Heart, what some of his history's wise have considered the eyes of the soul, the highest intelligence, few if any will find it easily dismissed.  I have infinite time to explore this information with the Truth seeker and zero time, not a nanosecond, to defend it.  People are dying, they have rights my time, and no one else does. 

I will not apologize for what will seem like absolutist stances here.  I make no absolutist claims but I've found through, well, a 60 year lifetime that there are in fact things that I can depend upon, that I’ve found through study and practice.  I'll not communicate to you doubt, or interest in arguing, when I have none.  You can make your own conclusions.  There's an expression - The exception proves the rule; the fact that there is an exception proves that there  is a rule or suggests that there is a rule.  If anyone, my brothers and sisters all, finds that they are not interested in, or reject this information, they go on their way with my goodwill. 

Yes a valid strategy can be based on defying all history, all precedent, all logic, but the responsible warrior, the responsible fighter, does so only when they have damn good reason to do so.  That can happen, but only when they have damn good reason to do so, that they probably can articulate to others, not just themselves.  The serious fighter greedily learns all she can from prior successes and failures in any domain that might apply.  Gandhi usefully said – ‘learn as though you were going to live forever, but live as though you were going to die tomorrow,’ and more importantly, live as though 26,000 children are going to die tomorrow because we haven't figured out how to overcome our genocidal selfishness to keep them from dying, because they are, 26,000 children will die tomorrow because that, as 26,000 died today. 

Specific to Occupy - some introductory notes, there are three fundamentally new elements in Occupy's situation, as I can best understand it: first this is the first ever revolution within a democracy, isn't it?  Has there been another?  And is this really a democracy? Zinn would argue no. He would further say this democracy's been co-opted, that the United States ‘democracy, is the greatest absorber of energy that otherwise would change the status quo, that has ever been;  that US ‘democracy’ is the agent of the status quo.  I think he’s wrong, that it is affloholism that is the problem, taken advantage of by the ‘pushers,’ the wolves.  Second, the existential threat to humanity, let alone those in Occupy whether they realize it or not, is the clock ticking on the end of reasonable life-support on planet Earth.  Please, if someone realizes why this shouldn't be the central, pivotal issue of everyone on earth, let alone Occupy, please take a moment to try to enlighten me, because as I see it, if you lose life-support and in eight years the battle will be lost, too late, if you don't start the efforts now, what else matters if you lose basic life support?  And, third, the physical manifestation of your existential threat, it's a colorless, odorless gas, co2.  So, should Occupy take on this sane, major thrust of opposition to environmental Armageddon, which oh by the way addresses war, addresses inequalities in income, and on and on, it's a the perfect strategic issue, for hitting many, many issues.  It's a colorless, odorless gas.  So it's extremely difficult to get people to focus on.  And finally, maybe most importantly of all, your major opposition is not the 1%.  Your major opposition is the societal-wide affloholism, the societal wide clinical addiction to stuff.  The insanity, the denial that comes with addiction, the delusion that comes with addiction.  Clinical addiction is not only triggered by external substances, we've triggered it with a culture that worships stuff.  You included are of that addiction, and I, tho I’ve devoted more than a decade to getting clean, and have made near-total progress.

Change only becomes possible when you've found what is so valuable you'd die for it.  Because I SL want it to be this way?  Because that's the way it's been throughout history; and that’s how we are wired.  An activist is not equipped to fight until she knows what she would die for, to paraphrase Dr. King.  Why is this the case?  Because you know for sure that the status quo, those of the status quo, will always kill to defend the status quo - they'll kill careers, they'll kill comfort, they'll kill safety, and they'll kill bodies if those initial efforts don't suffice.  What exceptions are there friends to disprove this rule?  Not the Arab spring, not women suffragists, not the civil rights movement, not ending the Vietnam War, not ending apartheid; they all were successful efforts of people that had found what they were willing to die for.  They found death preferable to accepting the status quo, their own death,  incidentally. 

Specific to Occupy?  Knowing what you're willing to joust against is never enough.  And frankly, my brothers and sisters, that's all I've seen among you so far, and you're to be credited for that, no hope is possible when people don't act.  But unless they learn along the way there's also no hope, and you should have learned by now that just wanting to act is like way not enough.  If you haven't found what you'd die for there's no reason to wait to see who’s going to win.   You can know right now, the status quo will win. 

1ST RULE OF REPLACING THE STATUS QUO: NEVER, NEVER, NEVER [DID I SAY NEVER?] EVER, HOLD ANYONE ELSE TO A HIGHER STANDARD THAN YOU HOLD YOURSELF.  EVER. NEVER DO IT.  'Be the change you want to see in the world,' Gandhi said, not, 'Whine, insult, cajole, litigtate... until OTHERS are the change.'  This is school-yard whining, tattletale kind of stuff.  BS. STOP IT, NOW.  STOP IT. STOP IT. STOP IT.  Look in the frickin mirror.  You'll be ashamed, and then manybe, you'll start to become the inspiring change you were meant to be.  'Example is NOT the major thing in influencing people.  It is the only thing.' Albert Schweitzer, Nobel Peace Prize 1952.

 It is a widely held platitude isn't it, and more than that - that 99% of the cure is correct, accurate diagnosis,  is knowing what's wrong?  In the correct diagnosis is the information that one needs to figure out the cure.  Occupy's work necessitates an understanding of how humanity works.  What our DNA has basically wired us to do, and from what I’ve seen, hey call me blind, I'm unhappy to have to point it out, but I see no indication that you're holding yourselves responsible yet for a reasonable working theory of how people work, and how change is brought about.  

The battlefield is the human nervous system; the battlefield of World War II was the human nervous system, acting on the collective nervous systems; on the adversary in such a way that they would finally agree to the desired change.  Napoleon said, and I paraphrase – ‘you know what amazes me?  That spirit, that spirit always triumphs over the sword in the end.’  Whoever controls the nervous system controls the behavior. 

Occupy specific -  The problem is true, fundamental, mass insanity within the collective Western nervous system.  It is insane for us to be living 'normal lives' while the final weeks tic by on making this year 2012 the moonshot moment for saving habitable life-support on planet Earth for all creation, forever, let alone any other issues you're concerned with.  Its clinical insanity.  If you think that's silly then it's time for you to stop wasting your time on what I have to say.  This is not a 'V' situation.  This is not were a few people have manipulated and imposed their will.  This is much more, by way of analogy, a part of the city that is addicted to crack; that is, they are willing and in fact demanding participants - they want the crack.  Can we hate pushing that's going on?  We can, but if you get rid of the pusher and people are addicted to stuff, they're simply going to find another pusher.  That's where we are as a society.  Unless you can bring about a mass curing of that, you will not win.  In 'V' there was an oppressed population, in Arab spring there was an oppressed population.  You have an infinitely more difficult situation than that. It's much more like 1930s Germany were a tiny minority of sane people, some sane Germans, saw the hell that Germans were bringing on themselves only a dozen years hence, and they failed in waking up their brothers sisters.  That was another addictive situation where society-wide selfishness of people prevailed over heart, over humanity, over solidarity.  That's your situation.  This is a mass problem of affloholism, addiction to affluence, by whatever name. 

Friends, so far Occupy it seems to me has without I think intentionally doing so tried to defy all experience with a tragically mistaken notion of inclusiveness, of issues, of people.  Focus is necessary for any measure of force to bring about change.  Flatten the head of a nail and it's not going to effectively penetrate.  Take away the sharp edge of a knife and it's not going to effectively cut, or the tip of the spear, or the focus of the magnifying glass attempting to burn a leaf.  Without focus it doesn't matter how much force you bring to bear.  You've got to decide both strategically and in your Heart's what you're willing to die for and it's probably not a dozen things.  It's probably one thing, and if you can't discover that, you don't have to wait to see if you're going to win or not.  You're not.  

sufficient power is a prerequisite for change.  If you think of any analogues throughout history that apply to the type of social change you're looking to bring about, it requires, ultimately requires millions of supporters unable to live without change to the status quo.  It doesn't start with millions.  It probably started with one and then went to several, and then went to dozens and then went to  hundreds, then thousands.  A school of fish looks like thousands of fish change direction simultaneously.  They don't. It starts with one and then two, and then five.  It can happen very quickly but doesn't start with the thousands or millions, it starts with the few. 

Without deadlines, without a sense that the status quo is intolerable for one more day it's impossible to build the creative energy within someone, let alone within a group, so we're taught to have denial of such things.  If you deny, if you don't find within yourself something you can't live with for one more day, you're not going to be able to unleash the energy within yourself, and therefore you're not going to be able to be the catalyst within others.

If you aren't living 'failure is not an option' you will not be able to develop the creative tension in yourself and therefore not in others. 

Oddly enough creative tension only builds sufficiently when the warrior is willing to fail but they're unwilling to not try.  Think of that final scene in Lord of the Rings, the final battle, when Aragorn,  they're surrounded by hundreds of times more people than they can survive, they know they're going to fail, but they realize they are unwilling not to fight.  None of the major changes in history have happened with people that knew they were going to succeed.  Folks of the Arab spring three days into it last year, said, no we’re not going to win, we just aren't willing to sit on the sidelines anymore.  Without that willingness to fail, but unwillingness to not attempt, you can't unleash sufficient tension.

Creative tension - human power happens in the heart. The Hearth’s the highest form of human intelligence. I'm talking about the part of the nervous system associated with wisdom, compassion vision, conscience, empathy, solidarity, compassion, creativity.  This is the 80% of the nervous system that Einstein said we didn't use.  This is, is what you have to unleash in this society, this is what's been harnessed, ignited, unleashed in all the previous successful change movements.   It's the highest form of human motivation.  We're talking about the love of the mother for her child.  This is what Gandhi put all his confidence in, it's called soul force, he meant, heart force.  Humans are the most powerful creatures that we know of the universe.  The Heart is the ultimate controller of the human being when it's tapped and  unleashed, therefore the heart is the most powerful force in the universe which you need to unleash to achieve your change. 

The heart has never been so dead as is the Western, US Heart.   That's the core competence of Western civilization, our deadly c’risto capitalism, that has enabled such rape and plunder of our fellow human beings and all creation, to so deaden the heart so as to enable the two other major components of our nervous system, the head and the flesh to dominate, subordinate, virtually crucify the heart in each of us.  Your challenge Occupy, is greater than anyone's ever faced because you’ve got less to work with, less heart in you and your countrymen.  We can pray there is a shred of Heart left in most of our fellow Westerners but boy it has been tortured and atrophied into a bare shell of itself.  That's your only hope is to rekindle that.   

Paying the price is the currency of change.  I mean there's no, there is no free lunch.  Please try to hear this as more than some cliché.  This is absolute physical truth; physics ultimately.  So the question that you have to ask is - with the 2 options there are, where's the price going to come from-  you bludgeoning and torturing and harassing and abusing it out of others?  That’s what the 1% does.  Or is it paying the price oneself, Unviolent action?  The radical root cause of almost everything you're concerned with, probably all of it, is mass insanity, mass selfishness, mass inhumanity - affloholism.  That's a disease.  No one wishes to be insane.  No one really wishes to be an addict, it's an error; they can come to see the error of their ways.  Do you hate the addict?  Do you hate the drunk?  You might, but you're not proud of yourself for it.  The drunk is to be pitied, and if we're creatures of love, sane, then our task, for them and for us is to work to bring about a cure.  That's your task, to move people en masse, into their right minds, starting with yourself.

Be the change you wish to see in the world - this is what Gandhi meant.  Become the antidote, become the healthy human being.   Become the human being whose quality of life, although it may look like hell, is actually the quality of life that any sane person would die to have.  The alcoholic by and large doesn't envy those who are sober until she comes to her senses, and then she wants it with all her heart.  This is your task.  The highest motivator, health, morality in the individual or collective nervous system is Love, humanity, solidarity, dignity, by whatever name.  This is what the greatest leaders have been willing to die for.  Don't take my word for it, find it in your heart or find that this video or writing is no longer worth spending any more of your time on.  

The psychological battlefield is the nervous system.   I shared with you a quote from Napoleon before, ‘spirit triumphs in the end,’ tho that doesn't prove the point, it illustrates it.  But again search your heart you find that that's the case.  Everyone's individual and the collective body is controlled by the individual and collective nervous system.  So all external efforts are to bring about a change in the nervous system; it's eminently important for you to keep that central in your thinking as you devise strategy and tactics. 

I'm a lifelong student of psychology formally and informally and I suggest to you that far and away the most useful model of the nervous system is the it's of two alternative domains, two opposing domains really:  the Head and the Flesh which are the domain of entropy, small-mindedness, small heartedness, selfishness, disconnection, alienation, oppression - the 1% as you target them;  and the Heart which is the domain of solidarity, humanity, wisdom, compassion, empathy, conscience.   I will always suggest to you till someone convinces me otherwise that your entire success depends upon ultimately moving enough Americans from their head and the flesh which is what we worship in this society to the Insane Humanity of the heart.  

So this leaves you with two possibilities - violent warfare and Unviolent warfare. 

Violent warfare suicidally guarantees victory of the status quo because it empowers the head and the flesh, and they're insane, they don't know the sanity of conscience, compassion, of feeling of human connection.  They think they know, they have ideas about it, but can’t actually experience it.  Violence for you is kicking the can down the road.  It can bring about short-term change, it can't bring about long-term change.

You're out of road.  You have eight years to get the job done of reducing coal and oil 80%, by the year 2020.  Your out of road.  It will be irreversible unless you make 2012 your moon-shot moment, except for the insane Russian roulette fall-back of trying to bring about geo-engineering, which the best scientists are terrified of because it could just as likely bring about global mass destruction. 

You don't have any more road, you've gotta get it right now.  Violent warfare is immoral, unethical, I don't mean in some abstract sense.  I mean in the sense that use of violence is un-adaptive for the well-being of the species.  It's the way of cancer.  It's the way of diseases, it’s the way of parasites.

That leaves you with Unviolent warfare.  If you want more than the gratification of a violent rant that feels good, then your option is Unviolent warfare.  It's the only possibility of defeating massive, overwhelming physical force in time.  Your task is to sufficiently and rapidly increase the ranks of those ready to die for the change.  You need to understand and use force Field analysis.  What is it that is causing people to stay on the side of Head and Flesh, the side of status quo?  What is it that can cause them to come over out of greed, out of selfishness for the joy of exercising the heart? 

Side note: don't get distracted by what people want, oh, people want an end to war, for example.  It's irrelevant.  What are they willing to pay the price for, what are they willing to stand for?  Today, the answer is selfishness, status quo, or, nothing.  How do you change that? 

The only possible, final victor, is Unviolent warfare; is appealing to, and bring online, the hearts of millions.  This is true, clinically, biologically, physically, psychologically, historically....  Unless you want the final victory of total destruction.  Unviolent warfare is indisputably history's choice for defeating overwhelming violent powers.  Think of the leading social progress movements throughout history.  Unviolent warfare is history's choice of the moral giants.  That doesn't mean you have to comply.  But why would you?  If you diverge from history's giants of change, you owe it to yourself that you have a pretty damn good reason.  Please share it with me when you come up with it.  

Unviolent warfare reestablishes what it means to be a healthy life form, a healthy human being, not insane, not affloholic.  I'm not speaking morality here.  Is it some hideous morality to pity your drunk uncle, or your friend that you see curled up in a  drugged stupor?  No, it's wired in our DNA.  It's adaptive. 

All of this may come down to remembering, finding why we’re here, at Occupy.  'A human being is not equipped to live until they know what they would die for,' to paraphrase MLK Jr.  Meaning is what a healthy human being most needs in their life.  It's why the mother will run into a burning building almost certainly knowing it's her death, to save her child.  Meaning is the ultimate value, meaning to the well-being of others.  We are taught the opposite in this society and hence are bringing doom on ourselves. 

No, you need to keep the 26,000 children will die tomorrow of easily preventable poverty, and their families, in the room with you;  Arm them with AK-47s, like I do, so that you know that if you trigger their rage you know that their rage will blow you away, if they see you squandering the time you have, the limited time to save them, and to save yourselves.  Seems crazy until you do it, and then you realize it will bring you alive.  Always keep them in the room with you, watching and knowing everything you do.  All power, and focus comes from there. 

If there were to be a facilitation, a teach-in on this,  I expect it would be preceded by a fleshed out text version of this.  That would serve the purpose of preparing people for time to be productively spent in the group.  It would enable people to decide that they didn't want to be involved.  It would enable some fine tuning before they became involved.  If that were to happen, I suspect this would've gone through several revisions spearheaded by myself with considerable input by the few that might have an interest and willingness to aid in the facilitation.